Who's to Blame? Hamilton vs Verstappen: Chaos at Silverstone

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Well - Hamilton and Verstappen crashed into each other. A lot of very angry finger pointing then ensued. How much blame should we really place on either driver, though?

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  • Chain Bear
    Chain Bear2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • Laika24102007

    Laika24102007

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    @adomnarkwa Racing clean is going for apex. Read what stewards wrote ...

  • Laika24102007

    Laika24102007

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    @Daspien "lewis had mad his intention clear before the braking zone " So it was attempt murder?

  • Daspien

    Daspien

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    @Laika24102007 lol please dont tell me that you are saying that lewis dive bombed max lmao lewis had mad his intention clear before the braking zone and didnt erratically change direction once on the inside so no it was not a late lunge or dive bomb as you put it nice try though

  • adomnarkwa

    adomnarkwa

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    @Laika24102007 that was clearly NOT a dive bomb

  • adomnarkwa

    adomnarkwa

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    @Laika24102007 do you understand they entered the corner alongside each other? And at that point there is no obligation for any driver to take an apex? Max had about 4 car width space on his outside but continued to turned into Lewis’ line?

  • Krummi
    Krummi2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd be less likely to put the blame on Hamilton if he didn't have a history of sending opponents off the track exactly like that

  • Akos M.
    Akos M.3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hamilton missing the apex turning on a bend with less traction causing a 50+G collision to the only driver who's in league with him. Yeah no, Hamilton's at fault. Also him celebrating himself at the end while he put his rival in hospital is so damn disgrace, and Im not a Redbull fan.

  • Updog
    Updog5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Extremely casual American F1 fan here. The way I see it is, hamilton could have given a cunt hair more room, but these cars do have mirrors for a reason. I can't stress enough how much of a casual I am so I don't know the rules. But I see it as 60/40 on hamilton who in my uneducated opinion should be expected to give way as needed being the trailing driver.

  • Toro Loco

    Toro Loco

    4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thats what the steward concluded. and then the opposite for monza where it was 60/40 max

  • Patrick Trakzel
    Patrick Trakzel5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is no straight line in the penalties given by the stewards. For this LH got a 10 sec. and for what happened in Monza MV was given 3 places back next race and 2 points. I thought FIA stood for Ferrari's International Aid, but here LH clearly got helped with points for the championship. BTW an accident with that speed ( Silverstone ) could have influenced the championship even more if MV got really hurt. Luckely it didn't, nor did LH break his neck in Monza. Thanks to the safety of the cars nowadays. And the championship fight can continue. Lets be safe out there.

  • Abir Bansal

    Abir Bansal

    2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Toro Loco They say this but it's supremely unfair to penalise without considering the consequences. Bottas went bowling in Hungary and got a 5 place penalty, but Checo gets a 10 place for engine replacement, it's just plain stupid to ignore the outcome. Not to forget, FIA have been consistently inconsistent about this to begin with.

  • Toro Loco

    Toro Loco

    4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Patrick Trakzel i dunno how many times this has been explained already, they penalize the action regardless of the consequence. if max wins in russia even with a penalty so be it

  • Patrick Trakzel

    Patrick Trakzel

    4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Toro Loco He won the race in Silverstone (with the 10 second penalty ) so basicly he lost nothing, while MV loses 3 places on the grid.

  • Toro Loco

    Toro Loco

    4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 place grid penalty will be much more easier to overcome off the line for max than a 10 second in race penalty. and they both got 2 points

  • CoffeeForCorporateCounsel
    CoffeeForCorporateCounsel6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After Monza, it’s time for a Part 2

  • Bet Bot
    Bet Bot8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who else is here after the crash in Monza?

  • Caroline Houbeiche
    Caroline Houbeiche8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't wait for the Monza crash analysis... Need to send it to about 1000 people.

  • Elijah Rudin
    Elijah Rudin9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who's here after they came together again in Monza

  • RasseRanch
    RasseRanch9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So round 2 just happened

  • Replay68 Pete
    Replay68 Pete9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s clear Lewis won’t allow max to overtake him.

  • Mario Kart GameCube
    Mario Kart GameCube9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who’s ready for the sequel?

  • NeZ3R [ M.W.A ]
    NeZ3R [ M.W.A ]12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IMO Verstappen should never open his line to take the corner better, that would put more pressure on hamilton ! Also in racing they have to take risks witch they Both did Ham nor Vest backed out And ham was the winner of that collision ! And for the love of whatever god u follow like n subscribe im not a Ham fan by a mile!

  • SG
    SG15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In this issue Hamilton didn’t get any points on his License. He should’ve given 5 points to cause a highly dangerous collision. If he got it he might have got Race ban. That’s not good for Mercedes and FIA. That’s why they backed Hamilton in this regard. Paid Champion.

  • Zach B

    Zach B

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A race ban for a simple racing incident? A bit harsh, eh?

  • Something Different

    Something Different

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He did though? He got 2 penalty points plus the 10s penalty. He served his penalty, get over it.

  • Reefer Ryan
    Reefer Ryan15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hamilton drives dirty it’s nothing new 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • sf

    sf

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every driver with a winning mentality is a dirty driver

  • Iemand dat kan
    Iemand dat kan15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And to put it simple Lewis his fault

  • Iemand dat kan
    Iemand dat kan15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The stewards have fucked max over before 2p seconds for nearly killing someone is a joke. Lewis said himself take someone out you should be out

  • sf

    sf

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Iemand dat kan You're overreacting. Lewis never had the intention to take him out. He didn't purposely rammed into him, he understeered and got a bit off line. But you wouldn't get it because you hate his success and hate that he is up there with the greatests.

  • Iemand dat kan

    Iemand dat kan

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @sf it's not tho m8 Lewis took someone out and the clown.himself said if you take someone out you should not be allowed to keep racing

  • sf

    sf

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Iemand dat kan When did I say he was getting one? I said the incident itself is a maximum 5 second penalty for Lewis, because as the video says it's mainly a racing incident slightly tilting towards Lewis. Never a drive through or ban.

  • Iemand dat kan

    Iemand dat kan

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @sf max would not have gotten a pen cause it was Lewis his fault m8 he was never gonna make the corner

  • sf

    sf

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But the penalty is never for the consequences, it's for the incident itself which was max a 5 second penalty, you're just blinded by rage.

  • James Tucker
    James Tucker15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm of the opinion that Max did pretty much nothing wrong from a racing perspective - he gave enough space on the inside after all. I'd dispute the idea he was "claiming the corner" in this specific instance, because he was never going to go anywhere near the apex and was always going to leave enough room for Hamilton if he hadn't have made a mistake, although he certainly has "claimed the corner" several times before even just this season (e.g Barcelona, Imola). However, from a "trying to win the championship" perspective, it was undoubtedly foolish and perhaps a little immature from Max. He had the championship lead at this point, and being on the outside you are always going to end up worse off in a crash on a high speed corner. He could have afforded to give Hamilton a little more room - the likeliest thing that happens is you sweep round the outside without incident, and the worst thing that happens is you go wide into the run off area and perhaps have to hand Lewis the position for exceeding track limits. But at least you have 2nd place points and the potential to win the race in the remaining laps. Why he didn't give Hamilton more room for error, I don't know - perhaps he just doesn't expect a driver of Lewis's calibre to make such an error, or perhaps he wants to race him as hard as possible to send a clear message to Hamilton about how hard he will be to pass. Perhaps it's just his instinct, to not give any more room than absolutely necessary. But in this case, whatever the reason, it cost him. I also am not of the opinion Lewis did anything maliciously wrong, but it was certainly his error and it was right he was punished. Had he made the apex and Max had come across him, then it would have been Max's fault, but even though these things are matters of mere feet of space to the left or right, that is clearly not what happened and so the stewards made the correct call. Perhaps a drive-thru might have been more appropriate yes but 10 seconds isn't heinously egregious in terms of leniency.

  • Gianni di Summa

    Gianni di Summa

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @James Tucker agree with both being to blame. I just think with that narrow chicane and shitty kerbs max should've been a bit more careful, even though I'm dutch and been supporting him since his F3 days. I feel like the grid penalty was given to 'equal the playing field' with respect to silverstone. Max is gonna switch PU anyway so he's probably not gonna suffer

  • James Tucker

    James Tucker

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Gianni di Summa I think Monza is almost 50/50.. both did the wrong/risky thing and both of them suffered. I'm not sure I really agree with a max grid penalty though.. although his move was a risk, its hardly illegal or a sort of divebomb, after all the rules only say you have to be in control of your car. He could have escaped to the inside to avoid the closing gap but if we start mandating that then nobody will ever be able to race well against drivers such as max who constantly close down space aggressively and expect the other driver to always back out.

  • Gianni di Summa

    Gianni di Summa

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    take on monza? For me a racing incident with more blame to Max. Should have lifted but on the other hand Hamilton did not give him a lot of space on the inside. Also the sausage kerbs didn't help here

  • مهدی محمدی
    مهدی محمدی15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ham is problly is one of3 best driver and sliver stone is the pist he knows best. He just said fuck it let miss the apex and get 25 point

  • Max Mustermann
    Max Mustermann16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They decided that Hamilton primarily caused the accident. How is it fair that 1 driver is completely out and 1 driver is allowed to continue the race? The driver, who caused the accident should be punished at least as hard as the innocent driver. Otherwise the team college of Verstappen could just bump into Hamilton at full speed in a corner, so that Hamilton is out of the race and Verstappen can gains points. The ruleset doesn't prevent this very unsportsmanlike strategy from working out.

  • sf

    sf

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The penalties are ALWAYS for the incident itself regardless of how it effects the championship/teams. Hamilton never had the intention of "yeah let's kill Max", they're both great driver who didn't want to back out, and because Max was on the outside he got the bad end. I bet if Hamilton was on the outside you would be celebrating.

  • joebar52
    joebar5217 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holy smokes, I honestly thought I was the only one to think this was a racing incident!

  • kizzer plowright
    kizzer plowright23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cant say that you understand the rule. IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED THAT F1 IS A SPECTATOR SPORT so its got to be a balance between SAFTY n experience for spectators the rule's say that the car on the in side as long as its along side has to be given priority THAT IS WHY IT IS SOOOOO IMPORTANT TO COVE THE INSIDE FROM THE CAR BEHIND ......

  • TS Richard
    TS Richard28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was Bottas fault putting pressure on Hamilton. Bottas 20 place grid penalty and to lose 50 championship points

  • Carlos Humphrey
    Carlos Humphrey29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just when I thought Chain Bear graphics couldn't get any sexier :o

  • Manu14Smoke
    Manu14Smokeหลายเดือนก่อน

    Instead of blaming Lewis, people should watch the on board cameras of 2018 British GP. Max was in the same position and the other driver back out. At the end Haas driver crashed with someone else and nobody talked about it..... It's just about 2 racers who do not want to back out !!

  • MusicMaïstro_97
    MusicMaïstro_97หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t like Lewis Hamilton, just because of his way eith dealing rumors and he always lies and doesn’t tell the truth and just like Toto they have their own story to everything. I just want to say that Lewis his more “mature” additude is not any better then Max his ever so slightly bold additude and it’s still a “Lewis had at least kept at the right half(if bot had been coasting/lift off slightly) and Max could kept on the left half and keep in mind for a possible(well or not on purpose) touch with the unfolded event at Silverstone as silliest tried overtake by Lewis probably. But it’s all because of Lewis acting and just straight up emotionless response after the race that made him kinda sus about the fact if it was intentionally.

  • Luminescent Lion
    Luminescent Lionหลายเดือนก่อน

    7:40 forgot to shift the entire racing incident zone towards Hamilton because the FIA love him.

  • Jason Madinya
    Jason Madinyaหลายเดือนก่อน

    good analysis, but i think the position of hamiltons car was not so far to the inside. Everyone thats putting full blame on lewis are exaggerating the amount of oversteer and the amount of room max left. the gap between max and the apex would have kept getting smaller, the understeer ensured that they crash. def appropriate for lewis to get a 5-10 second penalty for the understeer.

  • Seth Remo
    Seth Remoหลายเดือนก่อน

    This was quite the racing incident, and he backed it up very well Very nice video on this 👌

  • Steve Hooper
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    A good summary.

  • warmonked
    warmonkedหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton had no choice. If he let Max through, then Max will always push him around like that. Max made a bet and lost.

  • Noire Ng
    Noire Ngหลายเดือนก่อน

    Im here because the algorithm told me to watch this without me watching F1 before the presentation of this video is top notch and easy to understand even I don't watch the sport I do have a question tho, if another incident similar to this(like slightly touching the other driver's car) occurs in the next races this year happens again between these two drivers, will the penalty be still the same? Seems not that hard to pull this off consistently for the win

  • Very Fast
    Very Fastหลายเดือนก่อน

    8:18 Here I think you are wrong. I mean, you are right about the fact that penalties are never about helping the "victim" side, and they should NEVER be about that. BUT penalties do not exist solely for punishing certain actions; They also exist for discouraging dangerous and "wrong" moves drivers can make in certain situations. For example, if the drivers knew that the outcome of crashing an opponent this way is a 10 sec penalty, they'd always go for it, because 10 seconds is nothing compared to eliminating/overtaking your main adversary. now, if the drivers knew that they'd be completely disqualified from a race, they might think twice before doing this. I do not mean to claim that hamilton should have been disqualified, nor am I saying that it's a completely wrong notion. I am a beginner in F1 and do not know the intricacies of penalties and the nuance of the severity of the punishments. it was just an example to illustrate the basics of game theory. Btw, I'm new to F1 and your videos are fantastic. They got me into F1 even more. Thanks alot.

  • Mark Freeman
    Mark Freemanหลายเดือนก่อน

    F1 is a funny game. If Ham had been given a drive through penalty, he would likely have only finished 2nd, which, would have caused him to be less conservative on the restart in Hungary, which he would likely have won. F1 is IF backwards, well sort of.

  • Mark Freeman

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    The point being, if he had been given a harsher penalty, he might well still have the same points.

  • Nick K
    Nick Kหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton easily

  • Per D
    Per Dหลายเดือนก่อน

    It could be interesting to make one of your amazing video's highlighting the Luck vs Bad Luck of Ham vs Max this half season .. Red flag repairs, small penalties etc to score massive points vs Tracklimits for pole and win, tyre blowout, Bot Merc 3 pin-pointed spare bowl etc ... what it could have been and where "This is Racing" stands.. might give the words "on merit" a shade or two, or atleast some feast of reactions. Keep up the good work, enjoying your channel!

  • 94wasajam
    94wasajamหลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm more of a GT/Endurance person and even I have seen so much commotion about this incident that I've found myself having to research it for myself and you have no idea how happy I was when I saw your video. I knew immediately this would be everything I needed to know in a nutshell 😂

  • Ultimate Driving Machines
    Ultimate Driving Machinesหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton’s fault. Had plenty of room and they were going 200mph into a corner and max was in front. He sent him into the wall at 200.

  • FLYINGPENGUINme
    FLYINGPENGUINmeหลายเดือนก่อน

    Verstappen mistakenly trusted in Hamilton to be a sportsman.

  • Teun Westdorp
    Teun Westdorpหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton showed he is not very sportive. Al the drivers asked how Verstappen was doing accept Hamilton, he was to busy celebrating his win knowing he pushed out Verstappen who was in the hospital at that time. Hamilton drove 1,5 meter from the Apex because he knew he couldn't pass him fair and square, the sprint at Saturday proves why. It was the only way he could win and he succeeded. 10 seconds penalty for Hamilton was a present, he was very happy with it. With the power in his car they gave him every opportunity to win this race.

  • FireQueen
    FireQueenหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton knows the track very very well. A proper racing driver KNOWS that there is no room in that corner. So: He was in the wrong, and knew that it wouldn't end well. He (at best) gambled, and now seems to have won, he could've easily killed Verstappen in this race. For someone that has no knowledge about the track, this maybe could be put down towards being 'brawn'. But for a seasoned driver, such a we can all agree Hamilton is, this is inexcusable! And thus this was collision by fault. As Verstappen rides in front, Hamilton should've hit the brakes, and tried again in another corner... The ten second penalty is a joke, and this will be an omen for bad F1 decisions from now on... A serious overhaul of the rules and penalties is needed.

  • Indigo Foxx
    Indigo Foxxหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton knew what he was doing... and so did the team... He's a professional racer, don't tell me he didn't know a slight understeer tap on the rear right would keep him safe but put Verstappens car out of balance on a reasonably fast corner. The steering wheel correction was an alteration of corner trajectory, allowing for a wider approach to the corner than he initially planned. It was up to Hamilton at this point to NOT allow for understeer forcing his line to drift wide in an already futile attempt of an over-take. He knew. And the FIA 10 second penalty was a calculated decision to look like they were dishing out punishment, when in actual fact they knew the 10 sec pen would still result in a win, making the pen arbitrary. The punishment did not fit the crime, you get 10 seconds for doing much less in F1. There is a complete lack of objectivity here.

  • Mary Angeline Ramos
    Mary Angeline Ramosหลายเดือนก่อน

    you're wrong it's Verstapen fault very clear.

  • Jayteen Adnath
    Jayteen Adnathหลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent explanation and perfect animation. We are expecting the Hungary Bottas accident with the same explanations :)

  • Ak &co
    Ak &coหลายเดือนก่อน

    Now you need to make one more of this with Bottas 😂

  • S Martin
    S Martinหลายเดือนก่อน

    Interestingly Hamilton did the same thing 2010 in the McLaren and Vettel in the Red Bull.

  • Hugh Brown
    Hugh Brownหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Chain Bear, please give us an analysis of Hamilton being defended by Alonso at this weeks Hungary GP?

  • Alan Fryer
    Alan Fryerหลายเดือนก่อน

    Too many fucking adverts

  • Okatogurui1234
    Okatogurui1234หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing's for sure, that sprint race left an image imprinted in hamilton's mind that so strong that he wanted to avoid the same outcome at all costs, and had effectively pre-decided his tactics going into the corner. That's what leads to these kind of accidents. There shouldn't be sprint races before the main event IMO. Also - hamilton didn't understeer into the corner but rather deliberately carried the amount of speed just enough so that he could make the corner while leaving enough space for verstappen's car on the outside. However, once commited to that speed of entry, there's nothing more he can do to tighten his line. It's all down to verstappen to move aside. It's physically impossible for hamilton to turn harder into the corner by mid-corner, however it is entirely possible for verstappen to ease off the turn and avoid an incident. It's just that neither of them backed down so it caused a crash.

  • GBuckne
    GBuckneหลายเดือนก่อน

    ..he cut into the apex as he has done multiple times regardless of the circumstance but when you use a demolition derby tactic its not always clear what will be the outcome, and this time unlike the previous times it was a disadvantage...

  • Chip Mcdonald
    Chip Mcdonaldหลายเดือนก่อน

    Disagree. Hamilton knew Max had decided to come in wide, and took a defensive line. There is no rule he must take a specific line, regardless of what people insist: it's a race. Likewise Max has to have known Lewis was on the edge of adhesion on the inside - but not only chose to ignore that, but to cut Hamilton's line. Lewis was steering into the corner, seen on the onboard. Max on the other hand, is seen turning his wheel aggressively into Lewis: he thought he was past. Max' fault.

  • M R A Scott
    M R A Scottหลายเดือนก่อน

    Something to bear in mind is that Hamilton could see Verstappen at all times, the latter lost sight of LH after they started turning. That's an immediate shift of culpability to LH. Then there are the calculated risks involved for both of them - if two cars rub tyres or tap each other in fast turn, the one on the outside is almost guaranteed to come off worse - you don't have to be a seven times F1 world champion to know that. So arguably, given BOTH of the preceding, LH was making a more cynical/calculated gamble than MV, who was foolhardy to think LH (and they both have form in this regard) wouldn't throw those dice.

  • Laurent Duchesne
    Laurent Duchesneหลายเดือนก่อน

    Verstappen was clearly at fault. They crashed after Verstappen's second attempt to block Hamilton, and you are only allowed one attempt at blocking.

  • CSM101 T800
    CSM101 T800หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last 7 years near summer break: Yawn This year: smoke on the water, fire on the sky

  • Tristan Ellis Gaming
    Tristan Ellis Gamingหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton’s penalty was I feel way to soft they should have given him a 20 second penalty

  • Gaming Canvic
    Gaming Canvicหลายเดือนก่อน

    Fam stfu

  • Josh Christiane
    Josh Christianeหลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video, you summarized all my thoughts perfectly.

  • Harry Nicholas
    Harry Nicholasหลายเดือนก่อน

    off the top of my head, i think they both over did it, but verstappen was all over the place on the straight, i thought it was subtle, but he was weaving - if it were me in hamiltons place i'd would have been busy thinking, glad he's made his mind up! then being taken by surprise as i lose front grip and drive into his side. it felt to me that hamilton just hit understeer, also in many cases where cars have been side by side and run into each other, it's down the the aerodynamics sucking them together, just watch a lot of the vettel / webber. right at the start of your video the second frame of the stills clearly shows verstappen is facing across the path of hamilton who just got cut off, i think verstappen was being a little over enthusiastic for the first laps of the race, weaving in my opinion.... also i think the sprint race, although fun, was a waste of time, qualy on friday was fun, but to qualify on the front row, then to have it taken away, is just silly. i have a hard time trying not to be bias about hamilton losing his pole, but i really do think that although we got more racing, which was good, two qualifying sessions, which is what sprint comes down to, is sillyness itself. good show, for once a pretty fair assessment of the events, they were both being daft, but both doing their job, really though if max had got a 5 sec penalty as well as hamilton, that would've been fair - lol.

  • phil spencelayh
    phil spencelayhหลายเดือนก่อน

    There have been a number of occasions where Max has squeezed Lewis who always up to this point has backed out to avoid the crash. Lewis could have avoided this one by backing out this time as well but really if he continues to do that he may as well just retire. If they are both determined to race there is going to be more contact. Reminds me of the Senna and Prost era when both were in equal cars.

  • Cartland Creative
    Cartland Creativeหลายเดือนก่อน

    Hamilton got loose when he tapped Max. That's why he went so wide. We know this because Leclerc zooms right by for the lead while Lewis recovers.

  • laco voj
    laco vojหลายเดือนก่อน

    They are both at fault bcs they both went so fast into that corner that there was no space for otherone...

  • Sanjay Oak
    Sanjay Oakหลายเดือนก่อน

    Max did Chop. He was way too ambitious. He was the one who could have easily avoided this. By this moment Max should have been aware that he has far strong car & he could easily defeat ( provided he did not crash) Lewis given Red Bull's superior strategy, great cat & excellent pit stops. had I been been in the car I would let Lewis pass instead of taking each other out.

  • Andreas Steinhart
    Andreas Steinhartหลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone should just watch this video and move on… well said.

  • Pranav R
    Pranav Rหลายเดือนก่อน

    There are 4k comments on this vid but the videos is not shot in 4k

  • Lesley van Overloop
    Lesley van Overloopหลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with your take completely, especially the punishment vs corner danger part, that is something the FIA could do better, it would prevent situations like this and still have exciting races in the other corners between these two racing monsters. I think people hate on the decision of the FIA because of their inconsistency with giving penalties in certain situations. which i agree with too. There are too much different decisions and punishments on the same racing incidents. That could be frustrating, but it's just the way it is as it seems. Great analysis! thanks for the video

  • karl ryan
    karl ryanหลายเดือนก่อน

    Max is to blaim. He defends dangerously. Hes done it a few times. Just you tube max being over taken. Lewis went for a gap. Max decided to call lewis bluff. Lewis didnt bluff.

  • Christopher DANIEL
    Christopher DANIELหลายเดือนก่อน

    we just see the real face of hamitlon... enough of his constant hypocrisy "message to all kids in the world... everything is possible is you want to" yea yea yea you were ready to create an accident for you rival to overtake him... you dont worth better than Sena or Shumi

  • Justin Lee
    Justin Leeหลายเดือนก่อน

    My biggest problem with this is not who's fault it was but what the intent of the drivers was. I feel like Hamiltons intent was to clip Verstappen just like he has done to Albon twice before. Hamilton knows he needs to break going in to copse but rather than do that and lose the corner he sees an opportunity to take out the driver ahead of him.

  • Willy
    Willyหลายเดือนก่อน

    Streetfighters eventually wind up with a bloody nose.

  • Mike Wagenbach
    Mike Wagenbachหลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like you contradict yourself. Earlier graphic shows Verstappen taking a line that leaves Hamilton room, which I agree with. His little jiggle of the wheel could well be that adjustment. Then right before the "balance" graphic you show Max's line as hitting the apex, which it doesn't look like he ever intended. You're right that Lewis was going too fast to ever complete the corner with Max alongside him. 100% his fault that they hit, and he's FAR too good a driver not to have known that it would happen. I hate to see a driver black-flagged for something that looks so close to a racing incident at first glance, but that would have been the fair thing WRT the championship. Note that I'm NOT a Verstappen fanboi. I dislike him (maybe it's his stupid face, but he's always annoyed me and I laughed long and hard when Leclerc shoved him off in payback in the previous season at, what was it, Austria? Too lazy to look that up.) and I'm fairly neutral but respectful of Hamilton. But to make up this many points by ramming someone is almost like the Prost/Senna Suzuka races in the 80s. I kinda hope Red Bull assigns Perez the job of wrecking Hamilton at the next opportunity.

  • Maurice Graver
    Maurice Graverหลายเดือนก่อน

    What about nature and its G forces? Verstappen cannot drive taking on G forces of a bend turning his car into Hamiltons car on a bend crazy man. Hamilton sums it up, if Verstappen do not respect the rules of the road and natures G forces then Verstappen will be killed

  • Muhammad Nur Azuan Musa
    Muhammad Nur Azuan Musaหลายเดือนก่อน

    Follow up topic. There's a discussion recently on reddit on fixing cars during red flag. I agree on the suggestion that the driver have to start from pitlane if they fix the car.

  • Tony Kraicheff
    Tony Kraicheffหลายเดือนก่อน

    DSQ?

  • Seth Warner
    Seth Warnerหลายเดือนก่อน

    Can u make a video about new teams in f1 and the transition from f1 to f2

  • Damian0816
    Damian0816หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your the first person Ive seen to say that Hamilton was understeering going into the turn, everyone else is saying that he simply wasnt turning at that point despite the footage clearly showing him doing so

  • xarion
    xarionหลายเดือนก่อน

    you said it yourself. VER turned across HAM when he had all the corner in the world to his left. could have backed out and finished the race. racing incident but still VER's fault.

  • G Tanz
    G Tanzหลายเดือนก่อน

    Max is to blame. He should have let Lewis through. But Max is a bully driver so he got bumped. Glad he is ok but he really should start also giving way to other driver's

  • Alex Ivan
    Alex Ivanหลายเดือนก่อน

    This is all you need to know about it: "Ultimately, if you ruin someone's race because of a mistake, and you're able to come back to a place ahead of the other person, that penalty doesn't outweigh your mistake. You shouldn't be able to finish ahead of the other person if you take them out of the race. It's like you're violating the speed, but just let you go,'' Hamilton 2018

  • soiung toiue
    soiung toiueหลายเดือนก่อน

    Max did steer to the outside, it is pure Hamilton´s BIG MISTAKE, PERIOD!

  • A S
    A Sหลายเดือนก่อน

    he could've punished to start from last position and it would still allow him to get to the points, while max was dnfd. just leave it, doesn't matter, hamilton is not better this season, he can win championship only with schenanigans like these..

  • James Handaja
    James Handajaหลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy moly...9 minutes just passed away while watching your video...excellent job!

  • 10Vingers
    10Vingersหลายเดือนก่อน

    VER steered to the left before turning to avoid hitting HAM. HAM knew this overtake was not possible and would result in a crash, he's a very bad looser. And the Schumacher Villeneuve incident has totally nothing in common.

  • Roy Thirstly
    Roy Thirstlyหลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn’t inside+alongside=ahead?

  • Bokang Reacts
    Bokang Reactsหลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for this take new fan of the sport

  • WPB Architect
    WPB Architectหลายเดือนก่อน

    He got away without injury. You're sure of this how? Do you think Red Bull is going to broadcast to the world if he has some type of lingering issue? Absolutely not. Also, that's speaking in purely physical terms. There are going to be some psychological issues to work through after experiencing a life and career threatening 51g impact. And knowing it was caused, internationally or not (and I'm not convinced of the not, as will become clear) by your main rival on the track. That seed of doubt could be planted, that in future truly dangerous scenarios together, and there certainly be be more, can he trust Lewis? Or best to give way, lest he get poked off again and not get so lucky next time. That's a big edge to Lewis. Anyone--even an F1 driver, and one of Max's obvious mental strength--is going to have some PTSD-like issues to work through after a genuine brush with mortality. Especially to be able to drive at the very limit at all times as top drivers must. I think this is an excellent analysis and its reaffirmed my belief that in Lewis' mind, this lap WAS the season--there was no way he was going to allow Max to be in the lead at the end of it, or quite possibly game over. I think in the heat of battle, he decided to dummy Max wide then dart inside going into Copse to either force him too wide in the turn or, if given the opportunity, 'Albon' him, and at insanely dangerous speeds. No way, you say? If you've ever known athletes (or actors, high profile businesspeople etc.) that have achieved at the level Lewis has, you know they are utterly ruthless and their focus singular...their will to win is so overwhelming that an opportunity such as this, to get a Max DNF, send his greatest threat to another title and the man who is clearly destined to one day take his mantle as perennial champ for years to come into a very high impact with a wall while setting himself up for a home win in front of the first massive (and adoring crowd) in over a year being exploited is far from out of the question. The win at all cost mentality, that killer instinct, is often what separates great careers from truly legendary ones, and Lewis is certainly the latter. He does NOT want to give up his crown just yet. I think that's why he looked so concerned in the paddock after seeing the replay, his fault was blatantly obvious and he feared the worst in punishment. He needn't have, obviously. Could be way off, but that's my guess at what went down.

  • Santiago Ochoa
    Santiago Ochoaหลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it that nobody realizes that Hamilton did back out. He was not going to understeer if it wasn't because he saw Verstappen closing in and had to slow down and turn right to try to avoid the crash. Everybody sees what happened and not what was going to happen if Hamilton didn't have to avoid the crash. Hamilton did not slow down to take the curve because he was going at the right speed, but ended up looking as if he made a mistake just because he was forced to slow down and turn right at the same time, which is very hard to do at that high speed without loosing grip. If Hamilton had not slowed down, the crash would've been front wheel to front wheel and with no understeering. Whose fault would it be in that case?

  • Zangetsu
    Zangetsuหลายเดือนก่อน

    hi chain bear. could you please not put movie clips right in the middle of your analysis? it just is kinda distracting and doesn't really fit your style of video. the video was flowing smoothly just fine without the weird clip that just breaks the concentration. thanks!

  • Bear Newman
    Bear Newmanหลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree that the FIA wont consider the appeal, and will deem it a racing incident. However, if they took into consideration “intent”, which they dont, Hamilton was an aggressor who knew full well what he was trying to do. A gamble that paid off for him

  • Whalezyyy
    Whalezyyyหลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say both cause they were both to aggressive one of them could have just back off and regain the position later, instead of that accident happening.

  • Roscoe
    Roscoeหลายเดือนก่อน

    Max had bet that Lewis would back off from the fight as he did before, issue for Max was that he was the one on the outside now, the position most vulnerable in case of a crash. In my opinion both of them should be to blame, almost equally (maybe a little more Ham for the understeer but still close). The penalty was fair, you shouldn't judge which place he finished and IMO you shouldn't judge if the other party got a DNF or not. Punish the mistake, not the incident itself

  • Dustin Jones
    Dustin Jonesหลายเดือนก่อน

    I see this as entirely Lewis' fault. He put his car in a gap that was always going to disappear and he did it out of desperation for track position because of the 33 pt deficit. At no point was he even neck and neck with Verstappen let alone actually ahead. For this reason it was Max's line and Lewis should have backed out but didn't because like I said, desperation. He caused a 56G crash, 0 pts for his main rival, and still won the race. I can't see how that's a reasonable outcome.

  • Sebastian A.
    Sebastian A.หลายเดือนก่อน

    To sum this video up he says that it could have gone either way

  • Nomi Malone
    Nomi Maloneหลายเดือนก่อน

    That was ugly. Hamilton should have his points taken away.

  • PrincessAKA
    PrincessAKAหลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that if Hamilton makes the corner both would crash and max would back out or it would have been mlre maxs fault. Due to hamilton not making the corner and not hitting the apex its kinda this fault. He still his fault that the car oversteered. I also think there should be some rule regarding of the heavyness of a crash. Its one thing to cause a collision no matter who's at fault and an entire different thing if therefore a driver collides with a wall with 51g risking injuries and potential death. A rule something like if your touch someone but the car is fine it should be around 5. If you ruin the race because of visual damage to the car 10 second. If you crash someone out by breaking the car while it being a somewhat light crash 15seconds. And if you risk someone health than a drive-though (if its not a race incident of course). It would make penalty more fair in regards to the damaged driver. Maybe if its a race incident while being a heavy crash giving both drivers 1 penalty point. It would probly make some move even more risky but i think the savety of drivers should be more important

  • Daniel Paulson
    Daniel Paulsonหลายเดือนก่อน

    @6:40 Look at the steering wheel move! Max drove his car into Lewis's car hoping that Lewis would move for reasons for self-preservation. Lewis was understeering at the limit, couldn't have missed him, and was under no obligation to miss him. I still can't sort out how this was Lewis's fault. Someone who isn't the best driver in this history of the sport wrecked a very good car while someone who is the best driver in the history of the sport got the inside line and went on to win despite being handed a penalty that would have prevented any lesser driver from winning. At most, it was a racing incident and I'm still unclear that it isn't Max's fault. Relying on other driver's sense of self-preservation is how people drive in Detroit, FWIW. They should be ashamed of themselves, as should Max.

  • lukilladog
    lukilladogหลายเดือนก่อน

    So what about punishing drivers for winning an advantage?. I don´t think they are consistent at all, Hamilton got the ultimate advantage by doing this.

  • K. Bosch
    K. Boschหลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and insightful commentary. Up to now, the ‘rule’ has been “leave enough space on the inside”, which Max did. He was still clipped. Hamilton received the penalty. Clearly the stewards thought he was at fault.

  • K. Bosch

    K. Bosch

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    @valour10 Well, yes. It infers that Hamilton was deemed mostly responsible for the crash and given a penalty. How is that different than anything I posted?

  • valour10

    valour10

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    The stewards said Hamilton was "predominately" at fault. I am guessing you know what this infers, and matches what is said in this video.

  • RossBoss
    RossBossหลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is more boring Mercedes domination Or Drama over this stupid collision that goes on for way too long at this point

  • Skyler Waite
    Skyler Waiteหลายเดือนก่อน

    Punishment does not fit the crime. He took out his primary opponent, of course he was going to win, even with a 10 second penalty.

  • Trevor Marr
    Trevor Marrหลายเดือนก่อน

    Verstappen should have gone around the corner cleaner to avoid contact. Verstappen cut /chopped / increased the chance of collision.

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